Web Process Consulting | Recurring

Chris LaFay: Testing. Can you give me three hotels to test and give me their organizational breakdown. So that I can find them in. The drop down menus easily. Make sure you also include the email address as well. And whether or not it's a GM email or a PC email, within the three hotels that you give me to test, make sure at least one of them, the email address is a PC email.

Gavin Taylor: Hey. Hey.

Chris LaFay: How's it going sir?

Gavin Taylor: Super Super Bus. It's, it's a big week. We are, we brought on that new client. We're working on building that out. I'm closing our house this week so I'm waiting on paperwork to finalize the loan before I close Thursday, which is a deadline today. Would don't know why, but is that.

Chris LaFay: The joys man? Sounds easy.

Gavin Taylor: A little bit. Oh yeah. Well I just want to hop on to because I don't want to just completely blow you off. I'm gonna send you over like a official like 30 day cancellation thing today. I know we talked about this last week. I just don't. With us being a limbo, I just think we should waste money and just like playing this game of back and forth where we don't really have a destination. Right. However, I do want to say that once we do have that destination, hey, this is where we're gonna go. I'm gonna aim to bring it back on to go that direction. Yeah, right.

Chris LaFay: That sounds great.

Gavin Taylor: I talked to Craig about the plugin. Everything, everything looks great and obviously it, it works great. So we're going to test it out with this new client, see how it goes. So how do you want to play the next 30 days? Because there's really not much we can go through. I know your contract does have that 30 day notice on it. So how do we want to play that?

Chris LaFay: The other thing I was thinking about. Was more along the lines of automation. There's two, there's two kind of interconnected things that I think might help with getting sites spun up faster. I could be wrong about these because. We really haven't talked much about these two areas. But I'm going to try to share. My screen without it taking a crap on me here. Let's see if this works. Today has been a good day for screen shares. Like we added coupons and locations. One of my thinkings was busting out services into its own custom post type. Now you see very generic things here. That's fine. My thinking was, is if you had a custom post type dedicated for services with default iconography, short descriptions, and then also associated Vehicle types as well too, which would also be in its own. Custom post type here. Now these are generic things. These aren't like Mercedes Benz S250 and. BMW i500, blah, blah, blah, blah. You could have dedicated pieces of content for each of those things, icons for. Those, and some other custom blocks that. Are built to dynamically pull on a services page. Here's all the models that we can do with this. And it's automatically populated because everything is nice and interconnected. You could also start with. You could have a script that's written. This actually was a script that could. Actually pre populate Gutenberg blocks on each. Of the core services pages.

Gavin Taylor: Then our service pages and our vehicle pages are already built out to the degree. Let me see here.

Chris LaFay: I saw these in here with models and services, but I wasn't. I couldn't figure out how they were connected at all. So I saw them. I saw them both here.

Gavin Taylor: Yeah. Yeah. So basically, let me share my screen now really quick. I can show you. I took like a. When I had the developer build this out, I took a Duda approach to it. And what I mean by that is, on Duda, what you do is create like the. The page and then you just duplicate that page. So, for example, both these are going to be the same pages. Actually it's just a coil in a page layout. And this really does not change very much at all. However, I do, Except the content will always change. And typically we bring on. Let me show you the one that we're working on now. Now, we're not actually rebuilding the site, but I can show you what I usually see most all of our clients. Let me give you a little bit of context. Most all of our clients are coming from a different agency.

Chris LaFay: Yeah.

Gavin Taylor: But they all work together. So the auto. It's a lot like Russell Brunson's inner group. Right. The inner circle. Right. So the. Our ideal client. We know those inner groups and those are the people we work with more times than not. So all of our clients know each other, which is actually really, really cool. But all of our clients also have worked with all the same people. So agency that they usually come from is called Leads Near Me. Same concept with this one. They build these sites out. They've actually gotten better and better each site that I've been seeing. But this is actually very close to one of our other templates. I honestly think they ripped this off from us, which is fine. I don't care. They can't run ads with a damn. But if you look at the inner page, what do you notice is the exact same page. What we typically do. I don't want to. I'll pull the files and put it on our servers, which is what I did with this one. I'm going to go in here and change this. But if we don't get the file. We're always going to get the files. But if we rebuild the site, what I'll do is I will use all this info already for SEO purposes and then that's what's going to go in there. Now I do like what they did with this one. Had the car added. But for the pages that you're looking at models and services, it's basically the same thing. We already have the template here. Instead of having a template for each page because we're going to use unique content, we'll just have a basic template like this and then duplicate that or clone it. I think WordPress uses.

Chris LaFay: Is there a need to have your. Services and your models interconnected for better. Automatic cross linking and then also having almost like the pods for. For coupons having pods that dynamically pull service information. So when you're on other pages you could then dynamically put a list of. Specific services to where then if you updated in one spot, it updates it across the board.

Gavin Taylor: Not necessarily because with the services. Let's go. Very few of these sites actually have service pages, which blows my mind. Their service pages help with SEO so much. Here's an example of one where I built out all these service pages and I generated all this content myself. Now there's a couple on here that will be vehicle specific like A service and B service is Mercedes Benz is the only one that calls it that. A service is basically oil change, b services like 50,000 mile upkeep. Everything else. Well, I mean diesel is just the diesel vehicles but dpfd same thing. But everything else, it doesn't really matter what brand it is is we never use vehicles as like vehicle types like cars, trucks, SUVs, blah blah blah. We use it as brands and that's actually probably a better word for for it. But it will all 9 out of 10 times it will always be Audi, BMW, Land Rover, Mercedes, many. These are the most common ones. And then even with this we do interlink the pages for different repairs. We handle this section could go on it because I do want to include this section this more and more but that's about it. I mean the coupons we have to manually do to make sure that it based off of what vehicle. Yeah.

Chris LaFay: A follow up question Thinking about kind of the AI side of this thing, would you say that, like, I'm looking. At services and alignment. Is this content for the alignment page. Pretty much the same on all alignment pages?

Gavin Taylor: No, no. I actually go out of my way to put unique content. Itself.

Chris LaFay: So not counting the. Not talking about like the hero section. In the sidebar of the footer. Not kind of just the. That left hand column where the. You have your H2s and your paragraph tags.

Gavin Taylor: Yeah.

Chris LaFay: So is the structure of the content the same but the words different?

Gavin Taylor: No, not all the time. This is. So what I do is I actually, I went deep into this last week. Where was it at?

Chris LaFay: Are you handwriting all of this stuff over and over?

Gavin Taylor: Oh, absolutely not.

Chris LaFay: Okay.

Gavin Taylor: No way. Okay. So I was working with Claude, by the way, a ton. So for our AI content moving forward, I want to make sure that it's not AI. Stop. That never actually ranks. I want to make sure it's unique, it's valuable, and it's ranked both on local searches as well as AI visibility. This is the whole prompt right here. I have my knowledge base, everything that they have, pricing different things like that. And then what would actually go forward? So if it's a service page, if it's a vehicle page, if it's a location page, which I do want to start building because I do know that's going to help out a lot, or if it's an about page, and then it would be very specific. So this is going to. Let's say I want to do alignment, for example. Right. All this is going to stay the same. The knowledge base of this is going to stay the same. We get that through vetting and other stuff. I would delete these things right here and say, hey, this is a service page. And then the service name would be alignment. And then I would fill this out and then I'd go and copy and paste this into Claude and it says spit out the content. And that's what I'm going to copy and paste and throw it in. And then if I need to change it to breaks, for example, I'll just come in and update this section and repost it into Claude and then it runs it again, copy and paste it in. So even the layout could vary. I think it does have a layout description in here, but it's not going to be the exact same. No.

Chris LaFay: Like if I could take that script that you have and have it automatically go through and generate all the content for all the pages and dump it. Straight into WordPress for you.

Gavin Taylor: I don't know if I'd want to do that.

Chris LaFay: Why?

Gavin Taylor: Because I want to make sure that before I post it. I mean I'll just have to like retroactively QA at that point you would.

Chris LaFay: Just go in and edit it in the like. Rather than editing it with like in. The markdown file that it gives you, you would just edit it directly on the site. Because what you could do is like if the way that you have your prompt listed there.

Gavin Taylor: Yeah.

Chris LaFay: Is you have all the context that. It needs at the top.

Gavin Taylor: Yeah.

Chris LaFay: You could then submit. You would adjust one of the in the middle basically where you'll basically say give me a list of all of your services, all of your makes and. All of your whatever the third thing. Was and then go through each of them one by one and then run. This prompt over and over and over again. And there's a way that you can. Wire it up to the WordPress site very easily. It'll take two extra minutes to copy. And paste a code. I think you could have a dumpster.

Gavin Taylor: Far enough along to do that. And what I mean by that is I need to actually run this multiple times and make sure it's producing. Exactly. Because this is brand new. What I did before was local chatgpt. Let me see if I could actually find find. I might be able to. Oh, this is me trying to design that page.

Chris LaFay: Are you doing. Are you doing this work in Claude. On the desktop or in the browser?

Gavin Taylor: The app that. Okay. Yeah, I don't know. Okay. So what I was saying though is I want to make sure that I flush this out before I put automation start because one thing that I've been finding is I've been rushing to automate and it have broken pieces in it and then it causes a bigger issue later on to find those broken pieces. So I've been trying to go through and flush it out before we start automating. And like this is a good, a very good like V1. But I think there's like kind of. To your point, I could say, hey, here are all the services that we offer. Make all the service pages, here's all the vehicles. We do make all the vehicle pages. But I want to make sure that it actually produces that good content that's actually ranking first.

Chris LaFay: So which that makes perfect sense. My follow up question to that is how is it storing what it's learning when you go and make edits to it?

Gavin Taylor: That's why I've been on one on one like one thing at a time now, for example, the Duncan Site. What I did, I started with EC with and I said, hey, here's the scope of the project, here's what we're doing. This is what I want. I have a 45 or however many services it was that we need to work on. However, I want to structure one page exactly how we want first and then we're gonna go one by one down the list. So then I went back and forth with AC Repair a ton. So it focuses just on that. And then I got it where I want. I'm like, okay, do the same thing for breaks. And then it did everything over. I went back and forth and then by doing it one by one, it snowballed. So it actually got better and better each time.

Chris LaFay: So let's say that you're about to go and switch into a different company. How are you basically going to start. That entire learning process over again?

Gavin Taylor: To a point, I would reference that chat or what we did with XYZ company and then say, hey, we're going to do a similar process here. Here's the key differences. Here's all the information about the business. Here's this, that and the other. And then it will go one by one again and do the same thing. And by like the third service or vehicle, it has it all fleshed out for the new business. So it's not like hyper official by any means, but it definitely works well.

Chris LaFay: So one of the things that I've learned about content writing with AI is if you have your, if you have a project folder not on a client. Basis, but in a task basis. So this is your en masse content writing project. You have your three scripts for services, vehicle models and the other one that are separated. And then you have a client section where you basically store all like here. Client A, client B, client C. Here's all the information. You also have it store a learnings file. So as you go through and you do page one, page two, page three, and then you're doing edits to page. One, page two, page 3, and you. Say, look, here's my updated page one. What's the differences between your page one. And my page one? And it lists all the differences. Have it then saved to that learnings file on your computer inside that folder, that learnings file gets better and better and better and better. So that when you do the initial, when you start up a new project, you're not having to go through all that cruff over and over and over again. And you can also have it save the output of the AC repair file. The alignment one, the balance shaft, etc. Etc. So that it has something to reference. Later down the road that is high quality.

Gavin Taylor: Hold on, I don't think I understand 100%. Let me share.

Chris LaFay: By the way, it's almost one Eastern, I do not have a hard stop. My meeting got canceled. So just a heads up, I can.

Gavin Taylor: Roll just a few more minutes. It's fine.

Chris LaFay: I can actually, I can show you what I'm. I can't show it to you now, but I could, I can spend a little bit of time this week and actually give you something tangible if you don't mind sending me over that document. Because I think I can make your. Process a lot simpler. But with or without the automated WordPress. Piece, that doesn't matter to me.

Gavin Taylor: Hold on, let me get a clarification first. So in cloud, right you go project.

Chris LaFay: Actually would all be within code, but yes, continue.

Gavin Taylor: What do you mean?

Chris LaFay: Like there's a code. There's a code tab. There's a code tab up there. Yeah, it's not actually coding, it's just. It manipulates files a lot better.

Gavin Taylor: I don't want to do that one.

Chris LaFay: Now show me your process that you're about to go through. Because the processes might be similar. Mine just might have a longer term. Memory attached to it.

Gavin Taylor: Yeah, that's what I'll just try understand is you mentioned I have a project and then have three different files in here which will be what again?

Chris LaFay: So inside of a project there will be your memory file. I'm sorry, your learnings file, a client's file that you. Whenever you want to add a new client, there's that, that debrief of those like 20 different bullet points that you have for context, a client's file and a. The actual scripts. So the script for what does a. Model page look like? The script for what does a services page look like? Etc. The stuff that you have that's not. Longer winded, part of your Google Doc.

Gavin Taylor: That you have, those would be uploaded as instructions, I guess in code it would be different.

Chris LaFay: It would be a little bit different, but effectively. Yes, effectively. And then what you would do is you would just hop into a prompt and say let's get moving on Duncan's European Automotive. Here are the services, here are the vehicles. Apply all your learnings and go. And then it would spit out all of those as files for you to then move up to WordPress as you see fit. And then if you had any edits to them, you would tell it to then go and make.

Gavin Taylor: Yeah, I see okay.

Chris LaFay: And then it then goes back and applies. Basically looks at the differences between the original ones and yours. And then it takes those differences and. Puts them into the learnings file so. That the next time it does has. That baseline of learnings already. And then all of your stuff is in one spot. So then as that brain, as that grows over time, you'll actually have more and more sample content that's high quality. For it to pull from as well too,. Rather than doing kind of these one offs one by one. It's actually not as challenging as people think it is. It's. It's actually about. It's about learning. At the end of the day, it's learning two new skills. One is how to save your. How to save your progress into things. Live in markdown files by default. But the fact is you don't really. Have to read those ever.

Gavin Taylor: Okay, that's fine. I will share this file with you.

Chris LaFay: Is duncan's auto. A good baseline for a lot of things?

Gavin Taylor: Yes, actually it is. We just flush this out. I mean, Duncan's Auto is a little bit more custom than we typically go, but as far as, like, content goes, as far as sections go is very fleshed out.

Chris LaFay: Okay, that'll be a good baseline then for me.

Gavin Taylor: I'll work on that very specifically. This one for PPC pages. I love this page for ppc. This is exactly what we are looking to do.

Chris LaFay: With me.

Gavin Taylor: Oh, sorry.

Chris LaFay: No, you're good.

Gavin Taylor: I keep doing that today. You're fine. Okay, so, yeah, so PPC pages like this is what we typically do. But yeah, service pages flushed out. The only change I might make on this is move the coupons up and then. Oh, I can't really do that with AI stuff. No coupons would stay down there.

Chris LaFay: About the coupons are in the template, right?

Gavin Taylor: Yeah, I don't think we put it on this page for the template. We might have. No, we didn't. So, yeah, we would manually put the coupon block in. No, that's what I'm gonna have to think about.

Chris LaFay: About what? The. The coupons block piece.

Gavin Taylor: Yeah. There's so much to do on this template to really optimize it. And I wish Craig would just give me the go ahead with WordPress and I'll be able to finish out this template exactly how I want it. And then we don't have to do this back and forth like this. Because if I had this, if I had to go ahead and we flush out the AI content piece, I would be like all four. Hey, yeah, let's Go ahead and pre build all this and have it. Let's basically have ACF settings page click, hey, here are the vehicles that we're going to do. It automatically creates those pages and all that stuff. But I might want to do that anyway. Actually.

Chris LaFay: Wait, AI to create all the. The.

Gavin Taylor: That would be really cool. Okay, so imagine this in the settings menu for. I gotta show this.

Chris LaFay: Just keep an eye on the time for yourself.

Gavin Taylor: Yeah. Okay, so where it says models right here, these. This is actually vehicles. Right. So if we click on this and had a settings menu under here and it just say, hey, it had check boxes next to a bunch of different vehicle brands. Right. And we had the vehicle pages all built out, coupon everything. We just click it and it automatically adds those to the vehicle pages with the title, with everything that we need. Then same with services, to be honest. Then it would just be a checkbox. So that way we can just go in and once everything's added here, we just click, click, click, click, click, and it automatically adds those pages. We can then go in and edit the pages for the content.

Chris LaFay: I think we just said over the last 30 minutes, we said the exact same thing, just a different way to get there.

Gavin Taylor: I typically do that a lot.

Chris LaFay: You're all good.

Gavin Taylor: Because I like my way to get there, though. The content I can add manually, but I just want like the pages built out is what I'm saying.

Chris LaFay: Okay, let me. I'm gonna back up. I'm gonna back up one step. Okay, so this is what. I'm going to describe to you. A process.

Gavin Taylor: Okay.

Chris LaFay: Okay. And some of this will be easier with visuals. And these visuals I do not have at the moment.

Gavin Taylor: Okay.

Chris LaFay: So the process that you were describing.

Gavin Taylor: Yep.

Chris LaFay: Is actually more steps. And let me explain why. Basically, when a website loads up, you spin up a new site. Technically speaking, it has all the content for all 50 vehicles and 50 services that you have. You can then go through what you're suggesting, having a settings panel, but in reality, all that content has to be. Created already for it to be imported. You might as well just have all the pages, all the vehicles loaded in with baseline content and all the services loaded in with baseline content. And then you just go and delete. Whichever ones you don't want. And then from there you're thinking about going in page by page by page and copying over top of that existing content. Your AI generated content that you did either with Claude or ChatGPT, and you got right through that one by one by one by one by one. That's the General process that you just described. The process that I'm thinking of is you have a. Your website has both vehicles and services as custom post types, like they already are, nothing in them. You spin up, you go to Claude, and I'm going to breeze past some. Technicalities for the minute.

Gavin Taylor: Okay, okay.

Chris LaFay: You're going to say, yo, Claude, I've already given you information about Duncan's European Automotive in terms of the site map. You have the list of services, list of vehicles. Build the pages out for me. Now, version one is that it will then spit out basic HTML pages for you to go back and just like. Look through and edit in QA the whole nine yards. You could then go back to Claude and say, hey, I edited all these pages inside of Duncan's European Automotives folder. What did you learn from that process? It tells you what it learns. It dumps it all in for later. You could then hypothetically go and copy paste that HTML into each of the. Gutenberg things like, you're already done done. The next level to that is the first couple steps are all the same. It outputs everything you want to do. You edit it. Then when you're done editing it, you just go into Claude and say, okay, Claude, go. And it will then create all of the models and all of the services and do the interlinking of them where. Necessary on your behalf,. Saving you tons. Of time, copy and pasting.

Gavin Taylor: Yeah, okay. Okay.

Chris LaFay: Does that. Does that make a little bit more sense?

Gavin Taylor: It does, it does. And I like it, but I don't. And here's why I don't like it. Because right now I want to say 80% of my day when it comes to websites is back and forth with qa. I want to eliminate that part. Once I give it to. Once I post it to WordPress, once I give it to the developers, whatever it may be, I want to see that it was done and that is it. Right. So once it's on the site, I want to do be done. Yeah. What we're facing right now, and I understand that with AI, it would be a lot easier to find these issues. But what we're finding right now with these templates, with that old template specifically, is we on the aesthetic side, on the appearance side, everything will look good, but on the back end, there is something that is referencing the wrong company, it's referencing the wrong phone number, and we may be five steps down the road, and I might have qaed it and missed out one piece of it, and now we find it five steps down the road or Worst case scenario, the client comes back to us, says hey, what the hell is this? Then we look like an idiot. Right. And that's what I'm trying to avoid. My biggest concern there, and this is probably just based off of ignorance, but my biggest concern there is I'm going to have to actually do more work on the QA than I would on the copy and paste by doing it individually. Duncan took me two hours to do from top to bottom on all of content that is training at the time of charge on what I wanted. That's a back and forth with the first few pages on each of the categories, whether it be vehicles, services, about whatever and that's going through and getting all the content I wanted. So being beginning it and content on that one took me two hours. So I understand that Claude would make that probably 20 minutes, maybe less. But then the QA part of that for me to go through and read all that content and just make sure that there's nothing broken within it, that would take me probably an extra hour and a half, two hours as is. And then I would also have to check the links because one of the things I'd be concerned about is it improperly like let's say I screwed up or not even me. I'm not too worried about me doing it. But my assistant going and saying she uploaded files to it and it it's cost into another client and now link on the site is going to a external link to another client site. That makes sense.

Chris LaFay: Yeah.

Gavin Taylor: And that's the. That's the biggest concern I have that and while we are so focused on simplifying the QA process, I feel like that would stress me out a little bit too much. However I like everything up to that point.

Chris LaFay: So other than the. So basically all that being said is other than my phase two.

Gavin Taylor: Yes. So pre building the pages, having Lauren some content on it, I think that's fine. I think that that's exactly what we wanted to do on the PPC pages anyway. And the idea behind the PPC pages is we know what's working and the most part it's going to be a mechanic PPC page. It's going to be auto repair PPC page, it's going to be an oil change PPC page, then a variable for different locations if it has multiple location pages.

Chris LaFay: What I would like to get from you, can you go into your Claude that you have done a lot of content in a lot of content in any of it.

Gavin Taylor: That's why I wanted to flush out that prompt on that holding pattern for the last like six or not even six months, like four months. We haven't built out a new site other than Duncan.

Chris LaFay: Do you still have access to that chat that learned all of the things?

Gavin Taylor: That's what I was trying to find. I don't know.

Chris LaFay: Okay. What I would love. Yeah. What would be great is if you could ask that chat where you did all of this QA back and forth with, for it to look back at its history of the chat and to save away in markdown format. A few things. Actually. This. Actually this one thing. But the. The header above the question is different. For the page type. So. What did you learn specifically about vehicle pages? What did you learn specifically about service pages? What did you learn specifically about insert whatever page here? Those are the three things. That is the one core question repeated. A handful of times. And output that in a way that a future version of yourself will not have to have as much back and forth. That's the first. That's the. That's the prompt right there. And then if you can send that. To me, I can create this initial system for you.

Gavin Taylor: I want to avoid what I did with Duncan for content. I want to move more towards what I. The. The prompt I just shared with you because the strategy is different. And the strategy is different because we went down the AI rabbit hole for aeo and I want to make sure that not only is the content relevant enough to be found locally with Google, I want it to also be found with AEO and how we write those. That content is going to vary from what I did with Duncan.

Chris LaFay: Okay, that makes sense.

Gavin Taylor: So the problem is almost flushed out right now. This is great for single pages. Now if you wanted to test this out and see what your thoughts are on it, I would appreciate that. But I believe we are about 90% there with the prompt I just sent you.

Chris LaFay: Okay. Do you want me to create a project for you that will compound its. Learnings, Chat over chat over chat. And then also give you the ability. To create other different page types in the future? That if you had the core template. In that page type with a prompt,. You could actually automate other types of. Page layouts in the future as well too?

Gavin Taylor: No, no, I think what we will do, I want your help with this prompt for sure for the content. And then once we flush out, I want you to like review this first and see how you would change it for yourself. And let's start there. And then next week we can talk a little bit more about what we actually want to do with it because I would love to integrate this, but I don't know if I want to do it at mass.

Chris LaFay: What do you mean en masse?

Gavin Taylor: Like several pages at once? Like have a auto. Your phase two is what I'm saying. I like the idea for your phase two of this project, but I don't know if I will move forward with that. So first and foremost this week, let's just focus on this pump. I want you to take a look at it and let me know what you would do differently within it.

Chris LaFay: Okay.

Gavin Taylor: I think that's the best route to go.

Chris LaFay: Okay, that all sounds good.

Gavin Taylor: Perfect.

Chris LaFay: I can definitely take a look at that. Did you send it over to my inbox? I just don't have it pulled up yet.

Gavin Taylor: Yeah, I said it in Google Drive.

Chris LaFay: Okay, cool. Awesome. That sounds good. I will go ahead and take a look.

Gavin Taylor: Perfect. I know we mentioned that we needed to talk about me helping you out with your clients of marketing too. You want to set up a time next week kind of as a side note on our normal meetings to like dive into that or.

Chris LaFay: Yeah, we can talk about that a little bit. No, I must say. What about next week? Let me see. Hold on one second, let me.

Gavin Taylor: Actually, yeah, next week is probably gonna be best.

Chris LaFay: Okay, that's yours. Got that. Oh hey, by the way, next Monday is Memorial Day, so we should ship. We should go ahead and shift our. Our this meeting.

Gavin Taylor: Okay.

Chris LaFay: Next week. Can you. Could you do Thursday the. Thursday morning? The 28th?

Gavin Taylor: What time?

Chris LaFay: I could do as early as 9:30 Eastern.

Gavin Taylor: You do 10? Yes, I can zoom 10. Perfect. And then I'm gonna be out the following week. All week for moving. I'm assuming no to redo all the floors. My wife doesn't like carpet and I'm redoing. Okay, all the floors myself.

Chris LaFay: Huh? Yes, sir. Let me mark this down, dude. No, no. Trying to get better about accepting meeting invites.

Gavin Taylor: You know, thinking about that same thing. I see a lot on my calendar with the outlines.

Chris LaFay: I suck at it and I give people so much crap who also suck about it. I'm like. Just say yes to the meeting and then I'm over here. Like it's mostly with. It's recurring meetings that are my problem because there's sometimes when it's a large group meeting, I'm not a requirement for. All large group meetings. And so I'm just kind of on. A week by week basis. Yeah, it drives me up the freaking wall. But I also realize pot calling the kettle black and blah blah. So there's that too. Next week.

Gavin Taylor: I mean, we don't have to decide to shoot me a text. When's good for you? Next week. I'm pretty open. That's a lie. Not on Tuesday I'm not. Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.

Chris LaFay: I might could do Thursday afternoon. So we have our meeting in the morning. Actually, what's the likelihood that you could. Just extend our meeting in the morning?

Gavin Taylor: 100.

Chris LaFay: You said 100.

Gavin Taylor: Yeah.

Chris LaFay: Okay. I thought I saw you shake my head. No.

Gavin Taylor: Yeah. My meeting immediately after that is with my developers and we've all decided to fire them. I'm just keeping them on until I actually spend time to hire someone else.

Chris LaFay: Actually, you know what, what's your other. What's another email address for you?

Gavin Taylor: My personal one is going to be G period M period Taylor 2015.

Chris LaFay: The middle letter is M as in mom.

Gavin Taylor: Yep. Not. Okay, good.

Chris LaFay: All right, cool. Went ahead and typed that on. What is chat all day on Thursday. Cool beans.

Gavin Taylor: Yeah, I'll come to the. I'll give you kind of a couple different things I've done with other people. Whether you want to white label it, whether you want to add it on, of course, services, whether you want to do referral, whatever you want to do. I've been really flexible in that capacity. So whatever fits your model the best. Just kind of give you a quick one now before I hop. I. It will depend on the project. You like higher end clients? Very likely I go in and do the work myself and then kind of lower budget clients I have, my team that I've trained very heavily go in and do that. So just kind of heads up. Anything over $10,000 a month I do personally though.

Chris LaFay: Gotcha. That makes sense. That makes sense.

Gavin Taylor: And we'll go into detail on that. But yeah, I look forward to it. We'll chat next week.

Chris LaFay: Sounds like a plan, sir. Have a good rest of the day, man. I'll catch you later. Bye.