CMILC - Lumberock Weekly Sync
Erin Dyer: Foreign. Good morning. How are you?
Chris LaFay: I am doing great. I did very little this weekend. I didn't touch work at all this weekend.
Erin Dyer: Oh my God. It's my favorite kind of weekend.
Chris LaFay: Right? Tell me about. It was wonderful. I loved it.
Erin Dyer: That's awesome. Are you Dawn?
Dawn Audano: I'm good. How are you?
Erin Dyer: Good. Sorry I cut you off, Chris.
Chris LaFay: Oh, you're fine. I am all good. What did y' all do? What did y' all do this weekend?
Dawn Audano: Some fun stuff.
Erin Dyer: Yeah, well, I have kids, you know, so I think that's a general answer. All you gotta say. That's all you gotta say before yours.
Chris LaFay: It. Yeah, exactly.
Dawn Audano: I went to a 27 minute production of 101 Dalmatians over the weekend. Not my choice, but my child wanted to see her friend in a play. So we went.
Erin Dyer: How long was it?
Dawn Audano: 27 Minutes.
Erin Dyer: Oh, okay.
Dawn Audano: Not that I was counting. It was painless. Because of that, I told Chris earlier, it sounds like somebody heard the Cruella de Vil song and was like, you know what? I can make a show out of this.
Erin Dyer: My daughter is acting up this week and so the production will be Friday and I assume it will be stunning. They write the play like it's like a. Like it's like a. I don't know. I don't even know what you would call it. It's a workshop. Yeah, it's. They. They do the costumes, they do the characters. They do. Yeah. My kids are having so much more fun than me. Like, my son is in a LEGO engineering class all week and then he's in a D and D mega Sesh all week. So he's big into D and D. My boy. What?
Chris LaFay: I want to do both of those things.
Erin Dyer: I know, right? I know, I know. So he's got Lego and then dnd and then next week is Pokemon and then D and D. So he's pretty well situated.
Dawn Audano: Where is she taking her acting camp?
Erin Dyer: It's. She's actually the Woodstock arts camp this week. So we know a lot of girls that like at off Broadway and stuff. But the Woodstock one is really good. It's better for my kids. They're very quirky. My kids are very. I don't know, they're like just so themselves. I don't know how to describe them.
Dawn Audano: I used to do camps at the art place in East Cobb. Yeah, like it's next to the Mountain View library. I did camps. I actually, I did like after school stuff there for years. And I'm like, I need a place like that for my kids. But it's like you either have to commit to three days a week for a play or like there's no other option for you. Like, I just want my kid to take like a once a week improv class. Like, that's it.
Chris LaFay: That's what my wife did. It was great.
Dawn Audano: I want them to feel like that's what I did. I did like a scene study. I did an improv class. I did pottery one session. It was great. And I can't find that here.
Erin Dyer: So the Roswell Rec center is like world renowned for like how good their classes are. They're so good. You just reminded me that my son was supposed to be in an improv class on Saturday and I forgot. Totally spaced on it. My son is autistic and has adhd and he's super, super smart, but he's also super, super. Like, I don't know, I signed him up for all this stuff and D and D is like stream. Maybe he, maybe he'll do that forever. I don't even know.
Dawn Audano: My older is neurospicy. Well, we say neurosparkly when she's being nice and we say neurospicy when she's not. But she's, she's, she's a special kid. She is really kind. She is so quirky. Cannot understand sarcasm to save her life. Like, it's, it's great and it's a challenge. And her sister, who's two years younger, they meet at the nine year old level. So Laurel's 10 and she's basically nine and Ainsley's eight. But because she has a sibling that she has to like pretend to be the older sibling for. Like, I have two twins and it's.
Erin Dyer: Interesting, it's a lot. My daughter's super, super add and that comes out in all kinds of different ways. And then my son, God, I mean, I love them so much, but Jesus, they are so much like nobody can do anything together. We went to ikea. We went to ikea, like this was going to be a good event. And then it was like just hell on earth. This.
Dawn Audano: Do your kids still walk into a store and just think that they can just start going off in all different directions? Because I'm waiting for that phase to end and it hasn't.
Erin Dyer: I don't know. Tristan got overwhelmed with ikea, which, I get it, IKEA is overwhelming. But then we had to like do like a break, you know, like a. I don't know, a sensory break in the middle of IKEA is great. So I line them up with all the things with Pokemon, Pokemon and Lego and. But the guy who runs his DND stuff, he's a comedian and he's an improv comedian and he is, yes, fucking amazing. He builds sets, he builds everything out and makes them, their characters and 3D prints them and paints them and like it's amazing.
Chris LaFay: What, and he just does this for like kids summer camps?
Erin Dyer: Well, yeah, I mean he does. We, they, they do an all year campaign, so they go every.
Chris LaFay: Oh, this is not a part. Okay. You mentioned this in the same sentences as like talking about summer camps and stuff. So.
Erin Dyer: This is summer camp. So he's doing it from 5:30 to 8:30 or 5 to 8:30. All week long he's doing two mega sessions is what he calls them. And then during the year they have a campaign and they do it every week. So he's, he's amazing. He's amazing.
Chris LaFay: He does this for like. Well, I'm assuming like the age range is like from like what, 10 to 15 or something like that. Like that's freaking awesome.
Erin Dyer: And it kind of does it for neuro spicy kids. So it's kind of become his thing because they respond so well and like Tristan loves it so much. They actually brought it to the cottage school this year. They did a D and D class. So he did D and D as one of his classes. He got. And he won an award for the best improv improvisational dungeon master for D and D this year. So yeah, he's super, super smart, super creative. Just, I don't know, just kind of rein it in somehow.
Chris LaFay: If my wife could, she would. She doesn't have the tactile nature, so she runs campaigns. She runs, she's running one right now. She's playing in another one. I'm a part of both of them because that's what you do as a loving husband. I enjoy it. Yeah, I do. I'm not. I don't get into like the role playing aspect as much, but I love the puzzling of figuring out things. It's weird. I'd be a really good operations person for dnd, even though in my own business I suck at operations and structure. But I love the like coming up with the puzzles and the dungeons and the traps and the. All of this stuff that kind of like crafts the story that you're making. But I hate with a passion running it. Well, I've done it once and I, I feel like I actually did a decent job in running it, but I did not have fun running it because I don't improv well, and that stresses me out. And so, like, role playing, all these, like, different characters as the guy that's running it.
Erin Dyer: Yeah.
Chris LaFay: That's all I could think of. It was like, oh, if you. If you guys decide to go down this route, that wasn't in the plan. I don't know what I'm gonna do. And then I can't get stuck in that. And so if my wife was more tactile and she was willing to spend a little bit more time, she would be the person that would create the sets and create the things and do all that. She wants to be that person desperately, but she doesn't want to put all that time into it. But she's, like, right there at the cusp. But if she found somewhere to play in person.
Erin Dyer: Yeah.
Chris LaFay: That did all of those things. Oh, my gosh. She would be there. She would be there. A freaking heartbeat, you know?
Dawn Audano: I wonder.
Erin Dyer: So he just. He lost his job, this guy, and then he's expanding this and he has. He took over what was the Georgia Ensemble Theater. It actually just disbanded. And I know the lady who owned it for years, and so he's taking it over and becoming, like, bringing all those kids. He's just very good with kids. He's super patient. He's very kind, very funny. Like, so he's just kind of embracing all of this at, like, at my age, you know, so it's. Watch. And I hope it. Hope it all really works out for him because. Yeah. And he does, like, private parties and stuff. Like, he'll like, yeah, I'll send you. It's called Critical Studios. He's the coolest. He's so great.
Chris LaFay: What I am. I am so curious.
Dawn Audano: I'm gonna jump in here because at first we started talking and I was like, we're probably delaying for one mat or two mats to join, and neither of them have. So I. After Chris finds this out, we should all get back on track because I know we could talk about this for a while. Look that out there.
Erin Dyer: God love Madden, Matt, but they just don't like to have fun.
Dawn Audano: I know. And that's why we are so delayed right now. I was looking at the clock. I was like, oh, we've been doing 10 minutes of pre. Pre call banter. Like, we gotta.
Erin Dyer: You know, when they're so serious and then I have to always be serious. And I get it. But yeah, sometimes it's just nice to, like, find out who you're working with. Girls and. Yeah.
Dawn Audano: Yeah. And I know, like, you probably more than most people understand what it's like to raise a 10 year old who is just like, she likes what she likes and then she doesn't understand why someone gets offended when she tells them that she doesn't like them or their thing or whatever. Someone's like, did I do a good job? No, not really, but it was fun.
Erin Dyer: Okay. So I took Tristan out on a date with this girl the other day. He does very well with girls. He does kind of seems to be his thing because he's very tall and.
Chris LaFay: How old is he?
Erin Dyer: He's almost 14.
Chris LaFay: Okay, okay.
Erin Dyer: Yeah, yeah. So he, there's this girl that he goes to this club with and so we brought them both out and it was just like two Tristans and it was so funny. I brought him to.
Dawn Audano: We are waiting for a mat. Should I let him in or should I make him wait for a minute?
Erin Dyer: Oh, no, it's okay, it's okay. But I brought him to Mellow Mushroom and the girl waitress comes over, she's like, that was everything. And this girl goes, I just thought it would be better.
Dawn Audano: Like,.
Erin Dyer: She's like, I just thought it would be better. It's okay. She's like, you don't need to bring me anything else. It's just not that good.
Dawn Audano: I was like, that's my daughter. Great percent that's my daughter.
Erin Dyer: Exactly.
Dawn Audano: It's like, did you have fun? Yeah. But their house kind of smelled. Oh, did you say that to them? Well, no, because I know that's rude. Like, and it's like she knows it's rude because she's talked about it with like her school psychologist and she's talked about it with her therapist who have both told her like, yeah, you can't say those things.
Erin Dyer: We could go on about that forever.
Matt Elkins: Well, sounds like a very interesting conversation, guys, but we're getting on track now.
Dawn Audano: Now that you've joined Matt, I'd already, I'd already tried and then I saw you were joining and we were story and Chris was looking at a thing, but we're gonna do it. So today Chris is going to show you kind of how far we've come with the development of the site where I'll talk over next steps and then answer any questions that you all have as far as the website goes and expectations and anything like that.
Erin Dyer: And we will be having an in house meeting on Thursday, right?
Chris LaFay: Yes. I'm chatting with Charlie at some point today, make sure that he's still good with all that. He hasn't accepted the invite, but he told me last week that he Was. So I'm just double checking all of that. Awesome. Perfect. That sounds good. So yeah, so basically this past week was development, development, development, development. That's pretty much all that was happening. Most of it was converting. So we had that initial style guide. I'm actually going to share my screen. We had that initial style guide that we looked at on meeting number one that was not within the realm of WordPress at all. That was just something completely separate. So a lot of this has now been converted into WordPress. So I'm just going to do a very quick scroll through things that you've already seen. I'm not going to spend time on anything that you've already have seen. But all of this stuff is WordPress A ties. All of these building blocks work. Now keep in mind the images are not real. They're all fake images. They're not all lumber images. So do ignore the fact that there are very odd images. You pull these from free libraries, that's what you get. So we got. But we also do get some of the newer design ones loaded up as well. So these are customizable, the icons customizable, the text is customizable. Image is as well. Got little subtle animations happening there. And we did go ahead and build out these as well too. So this was that homepage building block.
Erin Dyer: Nice.
Chris LaFay: These will swap through. And if you notice here, kind of with these colors, they do. They do a little swap action there. So each of these different tabs can have a different accent color. Over there we have links to View Product. This is also working now. We do not have swatches. So this is one of the things that will be on your list. Okay. Is an organized grouping of folders that have basically the. The swatch name. So what I'm just going to call it Coral for right now. That's not a real one. And what does Coral look like in the morning? Overcast and evening. So preferably the same photo that you. That you generate for Coral is use morning overcast and evening. Just the. The lighting of the photo changes basically. So we have all these here. This is a very tall image. So I'm actually thinking about maybe it was designed as a. Like this image being full width. But in reality in a browser you can't really get to these bottom sections here without scrolling back and forth. So I'm actually thinking about reducing that width to more like standard content width. So you can see the images and the swatches. These are the kind of things that change in development that you really can't when you're designing inside of a design application. It's not real until it gets into code.
Erin Dyer: But this is all on WordPress right now.
Chris LaFay: This is all in WordPress right now. Yes, it all nice. There's all drag and droppable fields. Like this is a custom built block. So there would basically be these like repeater fields where you would just upload images to that. There's no drag and drop with this. You will type in your eyebrow text, you'll type in your header. If you have a description, you'll type in that and then there will just be a, a list of basically add new row, add new section. You just upload images and it's done. Okay, so this is all WordPressitized. We have our image grid cards from the home page where the quotes were and stuff like that. This is a very flexible block. There's a lot of other pieces inside of here that aren't being shown. These are all your standard ones that you've already seen already. You've seen this, Already seen those, seen those.
Erin Dyer: This is the home page.
Chris LaFay: That was the. That was that right there was the. This is what we're looking at right now. This is just a listing of all the different blocks that you guys are going to get.
Erin Dyer: Okay.
Chris LaFay: So you guys are going to have a ton of blocks that are already pre styled with your colors, your fonts, the whole nine yards. Cool. And so this right here primarily is the homepage one. So the, the home page will have a hero section. We have then these boxes down here which the words were pulled from the mock ups which at that point we had the locations. It was mountains, coastal suburbs, historic. And then right below that was going to be this section on the home page. So we did look at two sections developed out that were on the home page back to back.
Erin Dyer: Okay.
Chris LaFay: This happened to be visible back to back on this page as well. Too.
Erin Dyer: Totally got it.
Chris LaFay: Then we got the Swatch Explorer that we just looked at. We got the image grid that goes at the bottom of the home page. Or this is also honestly going to be used for like blog posts and stuff like that in the future future too. Where this will be the tag or the like category. This will be the blog post name. And there is, it's not showing here but there is a description field as well that's optional and that's where the blog post excerpt will go. And then the read More link will go right there. Okay. These are all blocks you've already seen. Already seen these, already seen these.
Erin Dyer: So I like that if you Go back up for one second. I like this. So this will be kind of how we're going to be positioning like the galleries on the pages.
Chris LaFay: Yes, exactly. Yeah, I like it. 100. And you, you. There's also just within WordPress you can always just drag a basic columns block and throw three columns in there with images and do basic galleries. These don't do anything other than just showcase stuff like there's no clicking actions here. There is a block that does do a gallery that's more. It's not working right now. Some script didn't get pulled over. But these, I'll actually show it to you live. So these will go like this. So this particular block that has like these little captions and these captions, we can style them a little bit differently as well too. But this is kind of your standard like light box style, scrolling through them sort of thing. So.
Erin Dyer: Got it.
Chris LaFay: All standard. All standard. All standard. You won't really need that. That's one that's actually in progress. Oh, and then we also have these stackable blocks as well too. So we're talking about on one of the. The problem oriented pages where it is sticking at the moment, it's sticking a little bit too high. But you'll notice these three blocks, these two column blocks are in the same stack and so when they reach a stopping point, they stop and then they kind of overlap each other like cards. I like that effectively. And of course I put them at the very bottom of the page so they can't finish up their stack because I've reached the literal bottom of the page. But they would then stack. So this would hypothetically stop around right here rather than. Right. It's like stopping kind of in this navigation bar area. It's a little too high up. But that's how those blocks would work on those problem pages and the collections pages as well. So we have a lot of the parts and pieces built out now. And so once we wrap up our site map conversation on Thursday and we're going to know where all the content's being pulled from, what has to be done new, what's going to be dynamically pulled in, then it just becomes a building piece. The process then becomes content, content and content and images. And at that point we pretty much, we have pretty much everything we will need. So.
Erin Dyer: And you'll need that piece from me. Right. So when we rework where everything needs to go, I can take what you have here and I can start to build out and then go to Chris and say, okay, from a SEO Perspective. Does this fit? Right. Are we getting the words in there? Are we getting all the references we need? So for I know that we had. And if the scope has changed somewhat.
Chris LaFay: Right.
Erin Dyer: Because we had. We're going to take all these pages and we're going to just convert them to this new look and feel. Obviously we're taking some things away, adding some things, changing the way that the structure is a bit. So for some of those, we'll have to make those pages ourselves. Right.
Chris LaFay: There will be. We'll. We'll define that. So basically what we're going to do on Thursday is technically the scope is five page six pages, if you include the homepage that we're going to spend a lot of time on, going back and forth on.
Erin Dyer: Yeah.
Chris LaFay: And then 45 to 50 pages that are kind of dynamically brought in as is, with the concept of obviously the building blocks of those as is pages will be updated to blocks that are in this list here. What we're probably going to have, if I had to guess, is now we probably are going to have about somewhere between 10 and 15 thought out pages. And so my thought is to stay within the same scope. We'll still put more time and effort into about five of those 10 or 15. But for each of those sets we'll have like a template for the collections page, a template for the, the problem page, and a template for the individual product line. Not product line, but the project type page.
Erin Dyer: Yeah.
Chris LaFay: And so we'll spend time on a handful of those, kind of with you at the top level on each of those sections and then let you rinse and repeat through all of them. Because at the end of the day, pretty much all the pages within those three subsections are going to follow the same layouts. You might add one section in. But my goal is with those templates is let's give you too many sections. And if you're like, oh, for this one page, we don't need three problems listed, we only need two. Great. We delete one. Done. That's kind of my goal, when I think about templated page layouts, is that I give you too many things so that you can then reduce, because reducing is a lot easier than adding.
Erin Dyer: So I completely agree with you. I think you're 100% on the right page. If you guys create a template for me that you can teach me how to duplicate and fix that is just as easy for me than trying to build out like a, you know, visual for you. And that way there's no guessing. So I Think that's going to work just fine. Buying.
Chris LaFay: Perfect. Awesome. So that'll be the plan is we'll have all the pages laid out on Thursday with all their names with some assumptions baked in. We can then talk through those and then we basically dole out assignments and so like these are the pages that Classic City is going to focus on, build out templates for. Based on the conversation that we had today, this is Aaron's set of work, work to do. And then more than likely Charlie's work from the SEO side will sit on top of all of that. They probably won't own anything directly from start to finish. They'll probably be your QA checker across everything. If I had. So.
Erin Dyer: Okay.
Chris LaFay: And then once we lock all that in, we'll then build out the page templates on our side for all the things and then we'll say, God, I'll say, God bless, have fun. We'll give you the appropriate tutorials and walk you through things, what we need. And then once we do that, we'll say, God bless, have fun. So because there will be, there'll be a lot of content, a lot of image generation.
Erin Dyer: Yeah.
Chris LaFay: We'll also talk a little bit about how to organize your thoughts on all of that so that when you do send it over, it's in a format that's easy for you to create, but it's also an easy format for us to consume and get right the first time. So.
Erin Dyer: And if you were going to come to me and say, okay, what's your dream way of executing on this? You've hit it completely on the head there. Right. My hardest thing with WordPress is this organizational and box creation that is much more difficult for me coming up with the content, filling in the content, being the subject matter expert, not as hard. So I think this is great.
Chris LaFay: Awesome. That sounds fantastic. Cool. Well, that sounds good. Well, that's going to be our plan for. And by the way, Charlie just texted me and said he is good for Thursday even though he hasn't accepted the invite. He's good. Given that we're meeting over lunch, my thinking was we could doordash some chick fil a to the office if that sounds good for people.
Erin Dyer: Yeah. Or, you know, there's everything around here. Are you a chick Fil a person?
Chris LaFay: I. It's, it's when I do food, I. Especially with large groups, I pick whatever is easiest in my head. Not because I'm don't enjoy local food, which I absolutely do. It's just like, oh, cool, we're doing a working session over lunch. Chick fil a is easy done. And then I don't think about it anymore. So that's my. That's kind of my core. Go to.
Matt Elkins: What time is this meeting set up for? Because I don't have anything on my calendar.
Chris LaFay: 11 To 1 on Thursday. And Aaron, you can invite you. I gave you permission to invite whoever you wanted to to it. So I realized the way that that sounded was I was putting the onus on you to do all that was not my intention. By saying that you. I'm trying to say you can invite whoever you would like to. To the meeting. And I think you have that, that.
Erin Dyer: Access before this to Matt. Matt, are you available then?
Matt Elkins: Yeah.
Erin Dyer: Okay. Because that's, that's the important thing.
Chris LaFay: Sorry, I apologize.
Matt Elkins: The. Ultimately, we need to get Jason involved in this as well. Aaron. But it may be a little too soon for that.
Chris LaFay: Okay, cool.
Erin Dyer: Yeah, that's fine.
Chris LaFay: Well, that sounds good. Well, we have. I'm going to put together a site map for our Thursday meeting. I am planning on. So I am about. I'm a little less than two hours away from you guys. So I'm planning on leaving around 8:45 most days. I've checked. It should only take me about an hour and a half to get over to your way. Something astronomically bad would have to happen on the roads for me to be late past 11. It is a highly unlikely chance. There would have to be some very big wrecks that happen. But I will see you guys on Thursday at 11. We'll get some chick fil a, we'll talk about site map, get all of our responsibilities doled out. I will be gone the next two weeks. Okay. So this week I'm in. The next two weeks I'm out. So my hope is that I can get some layouts done before I head out so that you have some structures to write content to for the next couple of weeks. Don. Don will still meet with you and all that jazz. There just won't be as much movement. The next won't be as much developmental movement. Which is why I want to get all of this dev work done before these next two weeks.
Erin Dyer: That's fine. It's going to take me a while to generate the images and the content. So that two week period is probably a perfect amount of time for me to get all that done.
Chris LaFay: Perfect. Awesome.
Matt Elkins: So what are we thinking, like for a timeline on this to be, you know, across the goal line?
Chris LaFay: So I'm gonna. I'm thinking about this off the Cuff. So please do not, do not hold me 100 accountable to the things. I'm kind of thinking about the top of the. My head over the. We meet up on Thursday. We kind of have a general idea of who's owning which pieces of content, what that structure is going to look like. There is a lot to generate on Aaron side of things. I would say that that probably is about a three week process for her, I'm guessing. So you what, when we talk on Thursday, you can give a better estimate to that. Then when we take and ingest that in, that's probably another two weeks, give or take. But then at that point we should go. This is like, this is the weird part about web is that it basically goes. It feels like it goes from 20% to 80%. Not overnight, but kind of that's like we're looking at something that appears like 20. We're seeing Lego bricks just kind of strewn about at the moment. The next time you see the site in four to five weeks, a lot of it will be there. So it's going to be one of these like overnight it's going to feel like there's a lull. But then once you see it, it's like, oh, there's a lot of stuff here now. Yeah, that's, that's, that's just a part of the process. So I'm thinking that within about four, like roughly four to five weeks we will have probably a 80 to 85 website done. And then at that point we do a few rounds of QA over the next two to three weeks after that and then we launch.
Matt Elkins: So early to mid August is what we're estimating at this point.
Chris LaFay: That, that sound. We're in the middle of June nowhere at the beginning of June. Yeah, I would say early August. Yeah, I don't, I think, I think early, like roughly about two months, I feel like is appropriate. Appropriate with where we're at right now.
Matt Elkins: Okay. Yeah. I mean, that's good. That was my expectation.
Dawn Audano: Awesome.
Erin Dyer: My commitment to you will be to get all of your stuff done before you come back. So I will do my work and then it'll be up to you guys to fill in those building blocks. And like you said, then it's refining. So I think that's when we bring Jason in and anyone else.
Matt Elkins: Yeah. And, and knowing that Jason is going to be especially sensitive to the things like photos and, you know, some of the, you know, the, the attributes and how we're trying to sell these things. So that will be great.
Chris LaFay: And yeah, go Ahead, sir, I was say.
Erin Dyer: And we have a meeting at 11:30 with them and I'm going to really put their feet to the fire about getting us assets too, Matt. So that's going to be a conversation we have for sure.
Matt Elkins: Well, his, his feet might still be burning from last week, so.
Chris LaFay: See, every time I do it, the one thing I'll also note is as you're thinking about image creation and whatnot, think about the aspect ratios that you see on the templates. Yeah, that's key. Fantastic. I just had a comp. We just wrapped like we went from a meeting right before this to a person who did not understand why a person's head was cut off in one of the photos. And I'm like, it's all about aspect ratio and they have to all be consistent. And that was hard. So I understand why it's hard. It's a challenge that has been around since the beginning of web. I will not belabor the point. Just think about aspect ratios. So perfect. That sounds good. Well, I'll go. We'll get some templates. I'll get some templates built out within WordPress ahead of our meeting so that when we look at the sitemap, we can kind of apply those template structures to those pages and then you'll know what you need to do.
Erin Dyer: Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I think, you know, those in person meetings are so productive. You get so much done between the people that are there. So wish you were there. Dawn, we will miss you.
Chris LaFay: Yes.
Dawn Audano: Another time.
Erin Dyer: Don't expect to come down for just Chick Fil A and us. So it's right shocks.
Dawn Audano: I wouldn't eat Chick Fil A anyway, so it'll be fine.
Erin Dyer: Sacrilege. All right. All right. Well, sounds good. We will plan on Thursday and I'm looking forward to it.
Chris LaFay: Sounds wonderful. Have a good rest of the day, guys, and I'll catch y' all later.
Erin Dyer: Thanks, guys.
Chris LaFay: All right.