Multidots - Current

Chris LaFay: Good morning. How was your trip? Man?

Anil Gupta: It.

Chris LaFay: Oh shoot.

Anil Gupta: Huh?

Chris LaFay: Oh shoot, dude. Yeah.

Anil Gupta: Yes.

Chris LaFay: Now I, I also, well, I was.

Anil Gupta: Around water growing up but you know.

Chris LaFay: They put you in.

Anil Gupta: They put you in like swim classes when you're like three, four years old.

Chris LaFay: I did it when I was three.

Anil Gupta: Did it when I was four, did it when I was five, did it when I was six.

Chris LaFay: You know when you're a six year old and there's a three year old right next. There's a very big age difference there. A little embarrassing, needless to say. And so I, I couldn't figure out the like, the how to take a quick breath in. Like I understood the like the motions.

Anil Gupta: Of how to swim but I could.

Chris LaFay: Never, I couldn't breathe and I don't know why, but my body just didn't get enough air and then it went.

Anil Gupta: Into fight or flight mode and that was just.

Chris LaFay: It both fighted and flighted and it was just. Which I don't know if, you know, doing this doesn't really help when you're in the water. So. The little floaties don't fit on your arms, man. They're not. I, I would have, I would have, I would have paid money to watch, watch that. I'm just imagining you in a pool of like 5 year olds being like, we're on the same level, guys. That, dude, kudos to like, I, I would not do it. I would not. Like there's a reason why I still don't know how to swim is because.

Anil Gupta: I'm like, I, I'm not.

Chris LaFay: I know that that's the option there isn't this like safe place for adults to learn how to swim with other adults? This doesn't exist. Yeah.

Anil Gupta: Yeah.

Chris LaFay: It reminds you that like, you know, when you're a kid you can learn like it's like the brain elastic elasticity or something like that. So like when you're a kid, like if you're going to learn to be.

Anil Gupta: Multilingual, do that as a kid.

Chris LaFay: Don't do it. I mean obviously you should learn. If you want to learn a language, do it. But it's going to be a lot.

Anil Gupta: Harder the older that you get.

Chris LaFay: And like it took you four, five years to learn how to swim where.

Anil Gupta: Most kids in one summer. Figure it out.

Chris LaFay: Do private lessons again. Except just do them together. Be like, hey, we get the family.

Anil Gupta: Discount for private lessons, right?

Chris LaFay: Oh my gosh.

Anil Gupta: The choice.

Chris LaFay: Last few weeks have been, honestly, the last few weeks have been stellar. It's been so work wise all of the time.

Anil Gupta: I've spent over the last like three or four months just talking to people and being more intentional about it all just came to fruition all at one time. And so we probably have like 12 leads right now. And I can't remember the last time I've had like 12 leads in my pipeline at the same time. Obviously they're not these like fifty to a hundred thousand dollar builds like they were last year. They're definitely on the smaller side. But when you don't have two full time people eating up $300,000, it's a lot easier to make those things work.

Chris LaFay: So it's, I've. All that being said is I'm very.

Anil Gupta: Content with the changes that I made. I'm not sad about the changes that I made. And I, I'm tired, I'm a little tired right now.

Chris LaFay: But I kind of knew that going like when you push the reset button a little bit, you know, like there's.

Anil Gupta: Just going to be a little bit of chaos.

Chris LaFay: And so.

Anil Gupta: I'm okay with that.

Chris LaFay: I don't want to live, don't get wrong, I don't want to live in.

Anil Gupta: This space for, you know, a year. But living in this space for the next like three to six months, rebuilding processes, empowering the team in different ways is going to set us up for a lot more long term success. And so I'm while tired, I am very happy, which is great. I do need to go to bed more regularly on time. That needs to happen.

Chris LaFay: So here we are. But no life is other than that.

Anil Gupta: Like life is good, like personal, like. Ali started doing her improv classes again. She started level two now, so she's in the process of doing that.

Chris LaFay: We're gonna, we have a nice dinner plan for Friday.

Anil Gupta: We don't do Valentine's stuff on Valentine's.

Chris LaFay: Day because why pay double the cost.

Anil Gupta: For a Valentine's Day special when you can just go like the next week and get the regular food, which by the way is the same food as it is on Valentine's Day.

Chris LaFay: And so we're doing like, you're doing.

Anil Gupta: Like dinner and a show, a comedy show next week or this week actually.

Chris LaFay: And my wife Ally went to Disney World with her sister around the time.

Anil Gupta: That you guys left. And so she and her sister took the two nieces down to Florida for Disney World. And my wife did not kill the kids, so we're all really happy about that.

Chris LaFay: And, and, and she and her sister are still talking.

Anil Gupta: Yes.

Chris LaFay: It actually went like really, really well. The kids were very well behaved. Like nothing like insanely weird happened.

Anil Gupta: Like it was a very solid trip for a six and a three year old. So. Yes.

Chris LaFay: So well, I know you have a hard stop at.

Anil Gupta: At at 45. At 9:40 L to 10:45. Mental math.

Chris LaFay: So I'm gonna go ahead and dive into the. The updated design now. There are a couple. So with all this, because I like.

Anil Gupta: Having caveats ahead of time, because that's fun.

Chris LaFay: This falls in alignment with about 80%.

Anil Gupta: Of what you guys have already designed.

Chris LaFay: So most of things are tweaks.

Anil Gupta: There are a couple new blocks that were not on the existing design, but they fall more in alignment with what you have.

Chris LaFay: And so. And I tried to design them in.

Anil Gupta: Ways I wasn't as concerned about the specific implementation of the block that I designed.

Chris LaFay: My thought was how could I design.

Anil Gupta: A couple of blocks that have a couple of different possible use cases within them.

Chris LaFay: So rather than designing something for like purely.

Anil Gupta: This is what a testimonial should be like.

Chris LaFay: You can put a testimonial in there, but they're also.

Anil Gupta: You could use this in different ways and shapes and forms as well too to have some visual distinction between sections.

Chris LaFay: So think of this more.

Anil Gupta: Yes. Is.

Chris LaFay: Does this is a similar story told.

Anil Gupta: Top to bottom of my original design.

Chris LaFay: It is, but when I was designing.

Anil Gupta: Elements I was thinking more along the lines of content flexibility and not as much specific. Does that make sense? Awesome.

Chris LaFay: Cool. So let's go. So we have basically the same hero section here. And I'm realizing in this moment that.

Anil Gupta: I have the exact same icon right there because I did not copy and paste the different icons.

Chris LaFay: There might be one or two areas.

Anil Gupta: Where I forgot to copy and paste unique icons or imagery for things. So.

Chris LaFay: So what happens when you look at.

Anil Gupta: Something for too long?

Chris LaFay: So this was kind of the, the.

Anil Gupta: The merge together of the grid, but also removal of non essential white space. So this is.

Chris LaFay: This kind of harkens back to the.

Anil Gupta: Design where you had a white pod and then inside that white pod there was a gray pod and then inside of that were cells. Like it was nested a lot. Like we wanted to bust that out a little bit to make it look cleaner. We have this here. We have the case study pods here. So very similar in style with different calls to action.

Chris LaFay: And this would have the hover effects.

Anil Gupta: I put a hover effect on one of these things. We'll see if it works. Figma was running real slow for me, so I decided not to try to do other ones. But the idea would be that the cards would just kind of like slide away. And I have a website that I can kind of showcase a sample of what that animation would look like. Look like.

Chris LaFay: So screenshots of all these things feather, like feathered out enough to where you could see what it they are without feeling like you have to read all.

Anil Gupta: Of it to understand. So like, my goal was to have like either in the call to action or in the title, you know what these things are.

Chris LaFay: So even if you don't hover over.

Anil Gupta: Them, you still get an idea of like, these are the different things.

Chris LaFay: This is a.

Anil Gupta: Why is it haunted? It shouldn't be over the edge. Sorry, there's something with figment how it's sharing that this should not be going over the edge, it should be square. Let me change my viewport with Figma.

Chris LaFay: Hey, now it's even.

Anil Gupta: I was wondering why the logos over here were odd as well too.

Chris LaFay: So this is what the testimonial section could look like. And in reality all this is is.

Anil Gupta: Just a wider width. It's not content width, it's wide width of a solid color with a gradient overlay.

Chris LaFay: So hypothetically, you could put columns inside of here.

Anil Gupta: You could put large text like a testimonial.

Chris LaFay: But it's a visual differentiator because right.

Anil Gupta: Now on the site, everything is white. Everything just has drop shadows. You need to have these sections to where like things are contained within them. And so these like inner drop shadowed sections with the gradient fluffs is an extraordinarily flexible section for you. And this is what a testimony I think would look like there.

Chris LaFay: I'm diving in. I wanted to do something with the.

Anil Gupta: Dots but not be kid like.

Chris LaFay: And I tried a handful of iterations with this.

Anil Gupta: I've tried to like, figure out how to like, make them multicolored or possibly invoke some motion very subtly, just as texture.

Chris LaFay: But everything I designed looked very childish and. And so I ended up going with something simple.

Anil Gupta: So just like the three dots. So what you'll see here, like with the arrows, we have the three dots there for the arrows, we have the three dots here flat. And it'll show up in a couple of other places too.

Chris LaFay: So the three dots, I want to do something different for like faq. So like the section of.

Anil Gupta: In the original site I designed, we had like CTO questions and then marketing questions, kind of like an FAQ style. But.

Chris LaFay: But given that the majority of your.

Anil Gupta: Clients are technical, like we talked about.

Chris LaFay: Before, what I wanted to do was.

Anil Gupta: Not have an FAQ section that was.

Chris LaFay: Common where it was just like one.

Anil Gupta: Or two sentence answers. I wanted to actually have an FAQ section of like legitimate question, like deeper questions that you guys might get from a CTO or somebody that's talking on behalf of one where the answer isn't just going to be two sentences long.

Chris LaFay: So that you could actually read something here and be like oh that is interesting.

Anil Gupta: Let me click on that and then get an answer. And so I tried to utilize some of like, like soft gradients, just again pull texture in and things like this. So this would probably be a Yoast FAQs block on the back end or even like an advanced custom field sort of thing. And again tried to kind of pull in the dots there. And my thought is for text links we actually do the dotted border type for text links. Again just to tie these things together.

Chris LaFay: This is where I tried to do a little bit of animation.

Anil Gupta: And we're probably. Figma is going to crap out on me at the moment, but kind of had this different like subheading style. So as you hover over this, obviously.

Chris LaFay: One of the books would become larger.

Anil Gupta: And then when you click on it.

Chris LaFay: The other ones will dim out.

Anil Gupta: Of course it's like.

Chris LaFay: And so the select.

Anil Gupta: Yeah, see, it's not liking that right now. Sorry. But when you click on it the rest will dim and then the. It'll then zoom you down to like drop us your email sort of thing.

Chris LaFay: And so this section would kind of.

Anil Gupta: Be in its own single scroll area.

Chris LaFay: So that once you click on one.

Anil Gupta: It'Ll kind of zoom you down. Wanted to add a little bit of motion there.

Chris LaFay: And then here's a slightly different way.

Anil Gupta: To utilize that, that call out section we're talking about.

Chris LaFay: So kind of the why we do.

Anil Gupta: This or like the information pods or something like that. Keep it very simple.

Chris LaFay: And then from a call to action standpoint, removing photos but using that orange.

Anil Gupta: Yellow, reddish kind of gradient. And I realize that this is a little bit different than this over here.

Chris LaFay: But I would love to use orange.

Anil Gupta: As kind of like this pre footer call to action across the board, simple contact form, no scheduler like we talked about. And then a kind of flat simple footer. I used a. I used the. Ignore the fact that the logo is stretched a little bit. I use the, the what do you.

Chris LaFay: Call shared component within figment.

Anil Gupta: For whatever reason it wouldn't resize it well for me.

Chris LaFay: So this kind of keeps all this stuff simple.

Anil Gupta: We're not really using gradients as much here because this is a footer.

Chris LaFay: It's simple so that is the updated.

Anil Gupta: Version of the homepage that takes some of the elements of the original design and then overlays them on top of your existing design system. So that's where like the 8020 Ness comes into play of existing, but a little bit different.

Chris LaFay: Thoughts.

Anil Gupta: Ideas. Yeah.

Chris LaFay: What we could do if. Quantity. How many? I'm curious. I'm actually kind of curious.

Anil Gupta: Give me a general idea.

Chris LaFay: How many core industries.

Anil Gupta: Do you work within? Enterprise. Yeah, Yeah. There's more. Real estate. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Chris LaFay: Hospitality is when you're nice to people. Real estate is when you sell people stuff. So.

Anil Gupta: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay.

Chris LaFay: What I'm thinking, what I'm thinking actually is. If the idea of more is not.

Anil Gupta: More is better, but just. I wish I could like squiggle, I wish I could like hand draw on this like a whiteboard.

Chris LaFay: But what I can do is I.

Anil Gupta: Can make a change here.

Chris LaFay: And I still like the idea of having a screenshot. I like the thing that you guys.

Anil Gupta: Designed on the newer version more than what you have on the homepage. Now obviously we, we both do, but if.

Chris LaFay: If we wanted to get these.

Anil Gupta: Smaller vertically so that there could be more on a, on a single page.

Chris LaFay: My thinking is what if we had.

Anil Gupta: A couple of, like a category selector, effectively, so that an industry selector, if you will. And by default all of them are kind of shown.

Chris LaFay: But then to cut down this.

Anil Gupta: If, if there was a tag.

Chris LaFay: Can you see my.

Anil Gupta: Yeah, you can see my mouse. Okay. If there was a tag over like an. Sorry, pretend these are not fanned out. These are. Rather than being fan, they are like kind of like a grid layout sort of thing.

Chris LaFay: So in one of the corners we.

Anil Gupta: Showcase the technology, WordPress, whatever it is. The opposite corner we showcase the, the industry that it's in.

Chris LaFay: We drop the description entirely because you're.

Anil Gupta: Going to work on writing titles for these case studies that are more informative as to what's happening. So then the entire card is just the.

Chris LaFay: I'm like, I'm going to point at.

Anil Gupta: The one that you can see the whole thing. The title of the case study with an arrow over here, this is the part that's linked. We drop everything that's down here and then just have WordPress publishing. And then now you could actually probably have 10 of these up at any given time and then have some sort of a selector of like, you know.

Chris LaFay: Have, have some verbiage around it.

Anil Gupta: So it doesn't just look like a tab browsing sort of scenario. But like, we work with a lot of industries. These are the four primary ones that we work with. And if you want to see case studies with these, click on one of these and it'll filter the view to the side. Verbiage would be better than that, but.

Chris LaFay: I wouldn't want it to just be.

Anil Gupta: Little like bubble links down here where you just like click on one.

Chris LaFay: I want there to be a little.

Anil Gupta: Bit more texture to that layout. And then we display eight or so case studies based on that selected industry. What are your thoughts to that? Yes, It.

Chris LaFay: Yeah, we could do that.

Anil Gupta: That's easy. Yeah, yeah, that sounds good. We can do that. Let me add a. Yeah. Okay. Other comments on this, other than. Other than these. And I can scroll up and down if you want me to. Okay.

Chris LaFay: What are your thoughts about the faq? It's not really an FAQ block, but.

Anil Gupta: It'S a little bit deeper than an FAQs block.

Chris LaFay: What are your thoughts to having like.

Anil Gupta: An area that has this slightly more expansive text to.

Chris LaFay: Which makes, which that makes sense.

Anil Gupta: And this, this could be used for something like that because if you're thinking more about those deeper dive strategy pieces, those aren't going to be answered in two sentences. And also for standard FAQs, this block could actually be. You could drop the entire right hand section and just pull these, these questions kind of like, you know, full width across the content area and do your kind of traditional like FAQ style, like single line kind of group together.

Chris LaFay: So this actually from a development standpoint.

Anil Gupta: Kind of solves two different problems. You could expand it or you could keep it half and half and do something longer.

Chris LaFay: And so, so if you were going.

Anil Gupta: To go down that route, which I think is, I think is great, you could, your devs could actually get double usage out of that.

Chris LaFay: So.

Anil Gupta: Perfect. That sounds good. Thoughts about this section here? Yeah.

Chris LaFay: It. So the way that I actually think.

Anil Gupta: That we would actually do this would be the modal box that pops up would be white on one half and then this orange gradient on the other half. So like this type of form would be on the right hand side of that modal box because this is the, you know, the CTA style, if you will. And then on the right hand side where it's white would have the details of that particular book, maybe even like a little screenshot of the book too and stuff like that.

Chris LaFay: And so I would envision that we.

Anil Gupta: Would duplicate this aesthetic out to get reuse out of what that form would look like. Does that feel, does that feel right to you? Okay, cool. Awesome. That sounds good. Easy.

Chris LaFay: This is Just the same section as the testimonial.

Anil Gupta: Just instead of a dark gray background, a light background.

Chris LaFay: Wanted to also with the testimonial and.

Anil Gupta: This, everything on the site has drop shadows behind it looking like it's popping up. So I wanted to have a couple of sections to where things looked a little bit inset.

Chris LaFay: So I wanted to have if we're.

Anil Gupta: Going with depth, let's go depth in both directions. And so you could then toss any of the gradient schwa swaths that you have at your disposal kind of in the backgrounds of these. So this could actually be like an ACF custom block where you have a couple of different soft gradient options to choose from. Do you go light or dark on the background? And then inside of it you just have Gutenberg blocks dropped in however you want. So that gives a lot of flexibility to something like this. Awesome.

Chris LaFay: And this could also go back to the strategy.

Anil Gupta: This doesn't have to be a like touchy feely section. This could, if you wanted to hearken back to more strategic thinking, this could be part of like how do you take how you're selling more strategic thinking and apply that to kind of like a multi column, kind of like quick hit section as well too. So it doesn't have to be these like little mini stories either.

Chris LaFay: And this is kind of that core.

Anil Gupta: Dupe, like kind of that eyebrow section that you. That I've used a couple of times here. Like how do we combine a header two tag with a little bit of an eyebrow text or description. Pull in the multi dots sort of thing as well too. Actually I should probably color these orange as well. So. Awesome.

Chris LaFay: So perfect. So in short, shorten up the case.

Anil Gupta: Study pods and then for the books, basically create like a little pop up design.

Chris LaFay: It'll probably not be on click within figma.

Anil Gupta: There will probably just be a section in FIGMA that's like this is what the pop up would like look, look like.

Chris LaFay: And so I can knock those things.

Anil Gupta: Out the next couple of days and.

Chris LaFay: Then I can share the, the whole.

Anil Gupta: Figma file with you. Yeah, That sounds fantastic. I like it. Perfect. And just to give you an idea, because I can't help myself.

Chris LaFay: So the problem with being.

Anil Gupta: I wish I didn't do this, but you know.

Chris LaFay: Such as life, this is kind of.

Anil Gupta: What I'm thinking in terms of like the smaller pods. I haven't put the little tags on here yet, but that's what it used to be. This is what that would be. So again, pulling in the dots there and then either putting multiple Tag, like a tag in the bottom or the top right or something. I don't want to overdo the tag. So it actually might, might actually combine them into one. But this would then allow like if I were to switch this, this is not going to be how this looks though, but go smaller. Can I actually select all of these? I can, yes. So it would not be fanned out, they would be in a more grid like structure. But this would allow you to, to have. A lot more at your disposal effectively with some sort of. Which I think, I think, I think.

Chris LaFay: That would be because really what you.

Anil Gupta: Want to see is an image to see if you like the visual and then the information on what's of interest to you. Like that's really all that matters here. And so I'll design a hover state for one of them as well too. And that might be actually where we pull in like the, the zoomed in kind of like off kilter stuff. So maybe as you hover over it, maybe it tilts a little bit to the side, it zooms in a little bit to kind of pull in some of that slightly different feel versus the rest of them.

Chris LaFay: So does that sound good?

Anil Gupta: Awesome.

Chris LaFay: Do you want to have a follow up conversation about this or do you.

Anil Gupta: Want me to just send it over to you afterwards? Okay, It. Yeah. This is a, this is a slightly different direction. I'm curious what you guys have done so far. So I've realized a couple of weeks ago that our core theme that we have for Classic City has a lot of like our, our CS at like our, the way that we handle like our sass files and like our default like ACF blocks directory and where we register custom post types and taxonomies and blah blah blah.

Chris LaFay: All that being said is we don't.

Anil Gupta: Inside that core theme, we don't have.

Chris LaFay: The building blocks already created. Like, okay, so for example, like we.

Anil Gupta: Didn'T have a custom post type for case studies because 80% of our clients have case studies. Right. 80% of our clients have testimonials. That's another custom post type. With that being said, having custom ACF blocks that pull a checklist of testimonials and throw them into a grid. We didn't have that either. We're rebuilding all this stuff. All of that context is to say that I had some fun this last week.

Chris LaFay: Fun is a variable word there where.

Anil Gupta: I basically worked with Claude code and said here's our standard theme.

Chris LaFay: But I don't have these core things.

Anil Gupta: Pre built use all of our core structures that we have in place. Don't deviate from those, but build out case studies, custom taxonomies and also take our take building blocks from this other repository over here, generic, make them generic.

Chris LaFay: And then bring them in and then also create a prompt because we do.

Anil Gupta: Everything with full site editing. If I'm establishing a new site and I, I prompt you to say, hey, this is a new website for consume media, there's a laundry list of questions that you're going to have. What are the primary, secondary tertiary colors? What's the border radius? What's the default drop shadow? Rinse and Repeat? There's like 15 of these. Prompt me with all of these and then edit everything inside of the theme.JSON file and create me a block library page with all of the blocks already pre built on that block library page for me with everything already create like, so that I'm hopping in, I'm hopping in. One of my team members is hopping in with eight hours of foundational work already done. I tested that last week and it worked well.

Chris LaFay: So my question for you is, is your team doing anything like that for.

Anil Gupta: Like your starter theme? Am I just beating a dead horse? Because you've already done.

Chris LaFay: I can. So if you.

Anil Gupta: Not today, obviously, but if.

Chris LaFay: What I built last week is obviously very rudimentary, but it solved and it at least right now solved an 8.

Anil Gupta: To 10 hour problem for me.

Chris LaFay: So if you would, if you would.

Anil Gupta: Like at some point, whenever, rather than just trying to jump off the deep end and trying to figure stuff out, I can show you what I've done and how I crafted all of this stuff rather than starting from a blank slate. Because I can.

Chris LaFay: Yeah, it wasn't, it was shockingly not that hard and it was shockingly decent.

Anil Gupta: And it was, I basically had it to where I told us like, don't code any styles like coloration styles and.

Chris LaFay: Color things and don't add in paddings.

Anil Gupta: With RIM values and pixel values. I'm like, literally, if it's a grid.

Chris LaFay: The only styles you're allowed to write.

Anil Gupta: In this, this core template are how many columns. How do those columns respond down on mobile and what is the gap size? And the gap size should be the, the pre coded gap size with the CSS variable.

Chris LaFay: Like you're only allowed to create structural.

Anil Gupta: CSS for this template.

Chris LaFay: And then from.

Anil Gupta: There when it starts getting customized, that's when it changes up. So anyway, be more than happy to walk you through what I have with that.

Chris LaFay: And I realize we're talking about two.

Anil Gupta: Separate things at this point. But if you could have one solid template that has 30 different building blocks and custom post types and custom taxonomies already there to where all you would have to do is turn them off, that might help. So willing to walk you through all that if you want to do that at some point.

Chris LaFay: I can do whatever you feel like it. I mean, we could. What what we could do. I could record you a loom video.

Anil Gupta: Of it, schedule a call with you on your link after I send it over, and we could use that time for questions.

Chris LaFay: Or if you're like, I got what.

Anil Gupta: I need, we're good, then we can cancel it. So we could do that if you wanted to.

Chris LaFay: Can you send me that?

Anil Gupta: Can you send me that? Whatever that, the documentation that was written up.

Chris LaFay: Do you mind sending me that over.

Anil Gupta: Okay, Perfect.

Chris LaFay: Sorry, I have to.

Anil Gupta: I put all my notes into a GitHub rep repository. I'm using some like things like with.

Chris LaFay: Obsidian and when you do, when you have your notes in Obsidian, I'm assuming.

Anil Gupta: You know what Obsidian I like the markdown file thing. Yeah.

Chris LaFay: When you have it in GitHub and you then do a lot of clawed coding inside that GitHub repository on your laptop and you forget to sync things on your desktop, then you have a lot of conflicts and I don't know which branches are on which. This is the problem. So now today I'm taking notes on my laptop because that's where all my.

Anil Gupta: Claude code stuff has been done.

Chris LaFay: And I'm probably going to ditch everything on my desktop and then wipe that clean and then just start off with.

Anil Gupta: A better process of like before you.

Chris LaFay: Finish your day, commit all your changes, buddy. So I'm not, not paying attention. I just literally am running two computers.

Anil Gupta: With two keyboards and two mice right now.

Chris LaFay: Enjoys. So that all sounds good. I know we're at the quarter hour, so I will let you prepare.

Anil Gupta: Fantastic. I'll do these design updates, I'll send.

Chris LaFay: You over the figma, I'll record you.

Anil Gupta: A loom, schedule a meeting, and if we need the meeting. Great. The loom video will probably be a little bit on the longer side because I'm probably going to get a little bit too verbose with it and walk you through a little bit too much. So cool. Awesome.

Chris LaFay: Have a good rest of the day, man.

Anil Gupta: Take care. Bye.