Building Healthy Community with Ben Callahan

<p>On the latest episode of <a href="https://wakeupexcited.show/">Wake Up Excited!</a>, I got to talk with my friend, fellow traveler, and recent collaborator, <a href="https://bencallahan.com/">Ben Callahan</a>. Ben and I met at <a href="https://bradfrost.com/blog/post/bdconf-mobilewood-10-years-later/">BDConf</a> many many moons ago, and since then we've shared many adventures together, including recently collaborating on an actual conversation. I have so much admiration for Ben and the community-oriented way he operates, so I'm incredibly pleased we got to spend a whole conversation digging deep into it.</p> <figure class="wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio"> <div class="wp-block-embed__wrapper"> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/m87n0DhQmWQ" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen=""></iframe> </div> </figure> <p>We cover so much ground in our conversation: building healthy communities, the critical importance of values, humanizing work, how hard things force you to reevaluate things, the sharing culture of the web, lessons from music, the cosmos, and a whole lot more.</p> <p>If you enjoy conversations like this, I'd love it if you subscribed to <a href="https://wakeupexcited.show/">Wake Up Excited!</a> on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRVyFmnlMfe0lMYaPF6zcT2JVUdpAjg9-">YouTube</a> or <a href="https://podcast.wakeupexcited.show/subscribe">wherever you listen to podcasts</a>.</p> <h2 id="links-and-resources">Links &amp; Resources</h2> <ul> <li> <p><a href="https://www.gettogether.community/book">Get Together</a> book</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/design-downtime/id1735214538">Design Downtime</a> podcast</p> </li> </ul> <h3 id="music">Music</h3> <ul> <li> <p><a href="https://www.chanticleer.org/">Chanticleer</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://jacobcollier.com/">Jacob Collier</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://bobbymcferrin.com/">Bobby McFerrin</a></p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://www.radiohead.com/">Radiohead</a></p> </li> </ul> <h3 id="bens-endeavors">Ben's endeavors</h3> <ul> <li> <p><strong><a href="https://bencallahan.com/">Ben's website</a></strong></p> </li> <li> <p><strong><a href="https://bencallahan.com/the-question">The Question</a></strong> - Ben's weekly open community design systems community</p> </li> <li> <p><strong><a href="https://bencallahan.com/redwoods">Redwoods</a></strong> - Ben's new paid community for design systems practitioners</p> </li> <li> <p><a href="https://sparkbox.com"><strong>Sparkbox</strong></a> - Ben's agency</p> </li> </ul>