A new interview

A few weeks ago I sat down with David Senra (of the outstanding Founders podcast) to record an interview for his new podcast. It just came out yesterday.

We talked for about two-and-a-half hours and hit on all sorts of topics including:

Build Products for Yourself
Low Costs, Small Company, Enough Customers
Your Only Competition Is Your Costs
How 37signals Stays Lean
Rewriting Basecamp & Fighting Software Bloat
Why "Enough" Beats Growth
Product People vs. Business Shells
The "So What?" Mindset
Staying Close to Customers
The Reward for Good Work Is More Work
Six-Week Horizons & Compounding Decisions
Anti-Fragile Business With Tiny Units
Galápagos Product Design
Radical Authenticity Over Marketing Tricks
Rick Rubin & Intuition-Driven Building
Lightning in a Bottle & Knowing When to Stop
Defining Success: Pride in the Work
Independence Through Profitability
When Tech Adds Friction Instead of Value
Ruthless Editing & What Never Changes
Longevity as the Moat
Building by Intuition

I throughly enjoyed the conversation. It's probably the one that most accurately captures my current lens on business and life.

You can listen on Spotify here: <https://open.spotify.com/episode/3ecxE9JmIXyTouizVLQND7?si=c2b03e94c42e477f>

YouTube here: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdDCtMA1gSw>

X here: <https://x.com/davidsenra/status/2023049664195690506>

...and of course wherever you get your podcasts. Look for the podcast called "David Senra". And don't just listen to my episode — David has interviewed a bunch of wonderful, insightful people. David is worth listening to.

Hope you enjoy!

-Jason